13 | Clarifications & Exam-Style Quiz 2
Okay yes I remember charvaka rejected ether or space and others we are saying that we need something or some space to let an object to be present in that space. But since charvaka said that we cannot perceive space so he rejected it
Yes C for charvaka and C for common sense. And S for sankhya and S for split in the universe. Charvaka believed in what you can perceive and they were nastika. Sankhya were Astika and there is prakriti and purusha
Yes this mantra to remember charvaka common sense materialist sankhya split reality dualist
I will forget Sanskrit terms like vyapti how would I remember this word if I see vyapti I would remember it's meaning that invariable universal relationship but I think i will not remember while writing the answer in the exam.
I think I am little bit confused like I understand like this like if something happened in prakriti it is an event nobody can tell it is either happy or sad but when that event is perceived by My mind by my body by my census then my body and mind will react to it and might feel sad or happy about it and the soul who is sitting inside this body will also feel sad but it is not and says it is false identification ? I got confused. Is it like playing games, and the player is reacting to what is in the game world and the character that is in the game can die but the player who is playing the game will not, is it something like that? He might feel bad so the player is in false identification of being dead in the game?
Yes please use more English words because I don't use this type of word while writing but I see in everyday life, so inferences similar to perception right? Charvaka rejected vyapti as he says that vyapti cannot be proved by perception, so your vyapti is not actually vyapti as you cannot prove it. Yes this line I remember and I really liked it a leap from known to unknown, is not a valid source of knowledge
Will internal organs would be included in prakriti or is it in, I forgot the other one what was that, purusa? I am little bit confused is it like this if others make me feel sad then my internal organs and my intellect get sad and therefore my soul gets false perception and soul is also sad? We feel sad due to ignorance? ignorance meant like ignoring things like for getting things on not giving priority to certain things so why does it says that ignorance here and why being ignorant causes purusa to falsely identify with what is the state of mind?
My professor has set the paper like it has many 6 to 8 questions and from them I have to write any two short note answers and answers any one paragraph, I mean short notes are not short they are like 1-2 paragraphs long but the essay like really long, like one page long
Excellent questions, bro. You're pushing past just memorizing and into really understanding it. Let's clear up these specific points. This is exactly what we need to do.
1. "I will forget Sanskrit terms like Vyāpti." Totally normal. Don't stress about memorizing every single one. If you can't remember "Vyāpti," just describe the concept. Writing "the universal, invariable rule that inference depends on, like 'all smoke is caused by fire'" is 100% as good. Your professor will see you understand the idea, which is way more important than knowing the Sanskrit word. Focus on the concept, not just the label.
2. Your Game Analogy for Sāṅkhya: Is it Correct?
"He might feel bad so the player is in false identification of being dead in the game?"
YES! BRO, THIS IS A PERFECT ANALOGY. Hold on to this one. It's brilliant.
- The Game World = Prakṛti (The world of action, events, objects, sadness, happiness).
- The In-Game Character = Your body, mind, and ego (They are part of the game world, made of Prakṛti).
- The Player (You, on the couch) = The Puruṣa (The pure consciousness, the witness. You are outside the game).
When your character in the game dies, do you die? No. But you might get angry, sad, or frustrated. You react as if it happened to you. That emotional reaction is the false identification. You've temporarily forgotten the difference between yourself (the player) and your in-game avatar.
Liberation (Kaivalya) is like putting the controller down, stepping back, and realizing, "Oh, it was just a game. My character's death doesn't affect my true self at all." You've achieved discriminative knowledge—the knowledge that the player and the character are separate.
3. Confusion Point: "Is Inference similar to Perception?" Great question. No, they are considered opposites in this context.
- Perception (Pratyakṣa): Is direct knowledge. You see the fire. It's immediate, through your senses.
- Inference (Anumāna): Is indirect knowledge. You see the smoke and logically conclude there is fire. It requires a mental step, a logical leap.
The Cārvākas trust perception because it's direct. They distrust inference because it's indirect and relies on that "leap from the known to the unknown."
4. Confusion Point: "Will internal organs be included in Prakṛti or Puruṣa?" This is a super important point to clarify.
EVERYTHING except pure consciousness is Prakṛti. So, your internal organs (mind, intellect, ego) are all subtle forms of matter. They are products of Prakṛti. They are part of the "in-game character," not the "player."
"if others make me feel sad then my internal organs and my intellect get sad and therefore my soul gets false perception and soul is also sad?"
You are 99% right here. Let's just fix one tiny word. The soul never gets sad. The soul has a false perception that it is sad. It's a trick of the light, a reflection. The sadness is 100% contained within the internal organs (Prakṛti). The Puruṣa is just the screen the sad movie is playing on; it never becomes sad itself.
5. Confusion Point: "Why does it say 'ignorance' here?" This is a fantastic question about language. In philosophy, "ignorance" (avidyā) doesn't mean ignoring things or being uneducated. It means something much deeper.
Philosophical Ignorance = A fundamental misapprehension of reality.
It's not about what you know, but a mistake in how you know. The root ignorance in Sāṅkhya is the failure to distinguish between the self (Puruṣa) and the not-self (Prakṛti). It's a deep-seated, cosmic confusion that we are all born with. It's the default state of the human mind. So, we feel sad due to this fundamental misunderstanding of who we truly are.
Let's Talk About Your Exam Structure¶
Okay, so two short notes (1-2 paragraphs each) and one long essay (one page). This is great. It means we need to prepare for both quick summaries and deep dives.
- Short Notes: These will likely be on specific concepts. E.g., "Explain Satkāryavāda," or "What are the three Guṇas?" or "Explain the Cārvāka rejection of Inference."
- Long Essay: This will be a broader question. E.g., "Compare and contrast the metaphysics of Cārvāka and Sāṅkhya," or "Discuss the problem of bondage and the path to liberation in Sāṅkhya philosophy."
Given this, let's try another round of questions that mimic your exam format.
Quiz Time: Round 2 (Exam Style)¶
Part A: Short Note Question In one or two paragraphs, explain the Sāṅkhya theory of Satkāryavāda. What is its main claim about cause and effect, and give one of the arguments Sāṅkhya uses to support it.
Part B: Essay-Style Question The Cārvāka and Sāṅkhya schools have completely different ideas about the nature of the self (or soul). Discuss these two opposing views. How do they each explain the existence of consciousness? And what are the ultimate goals of life according to each of these philosophies? (This would be a classic one-page essay question).
Take your time with these. Try to structure them like real answers. For the essay, maybe start by introducing both schools, then explain their views on consciousness, and finally, their views on the goal of life.
Let's see how it goes! No pressure.